. . . learning General truths and the Universal eternity . . . .



- it seems that for those with sufficiently eternal experience the following theory is partially real,,...


This is a learning attempt route at reading the one-track
mindfulness into the vast unlimited infinitely limited

If you see some self-limited thinking it's
probably because I was self-limited &<#




Existence, experience, material, all, infinity, Lord, God, causality - diversity of influence, creation, individuality - point of view and ordering, evolution - progress and regress, success and failure, will and effect, eternal time, history and space, time-travel, variety, pattern and potency.


1 General Truths 2 The Eternal Universe


Big introductory results: Envisaging, describing and summarising eternity

Think: infinitely many unique categories of irreduceable elemental experiences...
Suppose: All conceivable is not all possible...
To prove: Requires to know that the infinite all IS all AND no more.

Our proving (specifics) and knowing (generalities), our language use and abstractions may all increase and decrease between maximums and minimums - if it is our fate, yet, for all of us - we will come to find infinite pleasures and likings in our lives which stay infinite always....

Knowing Truth: God puts eternity into human hearts... Perhaps for some infinite beings eternity may be scoured in search of confirmation or contradiction of logical statements... This provides a mechanism that God uses to make us certain of the truth or falsity of any relevant statements we can analyse... Our being can scan the eternal universe, by God's enablement, for any evidence to the contrary of any comprehendable statement and if we fail to come up with negative results we can be sure, having scoured all experience in existence, and having found evidence that the statement is in someway true. Many things then - various extremes of evil and suffering - are entirely imaginary - they cannot exist in the realm of perceivable observation. The extreme limit of evil is always impossible to know, perceive, observe or even to imagine - it has been considered and found wanting and evaluated to be undesirable and banned from further appreciation or investigation. Some merely imaginary experiences never become fully known and/or perceived observations.

Imaginations are experiences in which the identities, timings and positions can be viewed ambiguously and flexibly abstracted in relation to those identities, timings and positions which are experienced to be shared with others and called real.

The Generality Code: The Whole Truth of eternal existence - entirely decribable by means of logical statements that follow logically from the entirely discernable axioms of existence. All logically consistent codes and true definitions are beyond contradiction... So that the Truth when fully experienced does not contradict itself anywhere and no paradox is intractable - all can be explained and described logically and coherently - so nothing is beyond the reach of codification or language - including language code using finite or infinitesimal elements...

It is possible to have impossibilities - impossibilities are possibilities that remain hypothetical and cannot be enriched in any actualisable form. Absolute impossibilities can never happen to anyone ever and are not permitted to be experienced in any way - not even in the imagination, so attempts to experience them will always result in thought-block and/or distraction.

. . . 1  General Truths . . . .

It is clear in the conscience that God demands sufficiently mentally endowed humanity to plan and strategise and force intelligently according to the recogisable laws of nature's currently intelligible cause and effect patterns so as to try to achieve identifiable results at least within certain degrees of approximaton. And this means trying and/or doing as the basis for moral accountability.

One thing is needed: By loving God with all of your being - essence, spirit, soul, and body you may automatically love all of His creatures in the most loving way you can. Ideal love for God also ensures simultaneous love for the creation. Also he who loves his human brother indicates that he loves God also for all creatures are part of God.

God's self-denying love compels us ever and anon to put priority preference to paying our eternal debt to meet God's and others good desires for themselves before our last minimum priority debt to meet our good desires for ourselves.

God respects fairly without partiality so He loves unequally in proportion to a being's worth and importance - bringing some more quickly than others into His full and good experience of eternity, yet He eventually shares all that He has with all. Jacob He loved and Esau He hated - although He loves all the creation - God makes some to sin more than others and makes some to forgive and be forgiven while locking others up in unforgiveness - whom He punishes for their unforgiven sins in hades and/or the lake of fire.

Time and history is determined by a game between truth and falsity... The part of your conscience that you use to decide what to choose may determine the outcome or may predict a false outcome depending on whether your conscience is true or false on that issue... The hypothetical outcomes in your conscience that you don't choose along with the outcome that you do choose are there to help you to form, in the present moment, true or false understandings between you, and the other beings you have consciousness of, concerning how they will attempt to determine or actually determine the outcome - for that event for which you choose any particular option... And the broadcast part of your conscience says what you will attempt and/or do in the event that they choose their option. Between this interplay of expectations being held and read by others we find that we can have beliefs reegarding the appointment times of the events we expect and we may give from our wilfulness to achieve any gifts or exchanges at the times we believe we will be there for each other.

Effect may cause its own cause... Abstract cause and abstract effect are both true of any element of any experience in relation to any other. It is equally true to say that everyone causes you to be who you are as that you cause you to be who you are. All experience causes any experience, any experience causes all experience and any experience causes any experience - it cannot be disproved except by simply not experiencing causation's fulness for a time. The Revelation to John teaches that God in Christ can be considered as the origin and the consummation - essentially this says that He is cause and effect in the most profound way. So God can be understood to cause effects in the most transcendent way. God and His Son are the greatest Initiators and Perfectors of every new development incorporating through Their omnipresent transcendence the beginning and ending form in each view of any process of by which a goal is achieved from an origin status.

For many God's will is one so that throughout God's plural nature all agree. However, the all is the complete collection of beings who collectively have all orders of experience and collectively contain maximum variety of experience. They can be imagined to relate to the ordering of all experiences in the most varied way - although this involves the conflict of the choices, desires and efforts they hold in regard to life's experiences. ...The choices of the all include the setting of rules of consequence that limit the amount of choices and their outcomes and makes creatures responsible for choosing to bring various doubts and confusions as to what people are choosing and what will happen in the future.

Conscience is a tendency to choose to rely on, or put faith in, a present story-commentary about the impending consequences of choice and then conscience guides the actual desire to choose a subsequent course of action from those believed to be available. This tendency to use a map of hypothetical futures - as if they all speak with equal validity of the actual future you attempt to choose - in order to make your next choice involves belief in a set of rules of consequence. Even though all but one hypothetical choice remains hypothetical in the immediate future, these choices may be recalled and remain relevant in the future, as they are used to assess whether the correct or most desired choice was made, since considerations/feelings about these previous hypothetical options varies with time as part of the moral learning of the being with the desire to choose and conscience to guide this will... The learning is either about understanding of what is considered good or bad choice in terms of overall later reward (good) or punishment (bad), or, what are the changing desires of the being faced with the choices with regard to similar choices as and when they come around again - either the desires fix onto reward or punishment, so either the conscience regarding outcomes of reward or punishment aligns with a general pattern - producing codes of conduct or the pattern seems random and patterns of behaviour resulting from the conscience are equally random... Conscience may be considered as something to seek Truth with - either reward or punishment - a way to find the outcome you consider correct or desirable, or else conscience is an entertainer to entertain you in the present with hypothetical ideas that are of little further use except as entertainment.

Without prophetic knowledge (a knowing that experiences someone's future) or knowledge of rules of choice-consequence the results of your choices are a complete surprise - however much the expectations, beliefs or wilfulness.

God tests us by sending us displeasure and we test Him when we sin...

God's kingdom is the rule of freedom... Freedom is the ability to be rewarded with power to determine your destiny. Freedom is transcendent ability to determine by the action of the will. Freedom of the will and determinism are two views on one concept of a difference of potency of the desires or wills of beings in the terms of their ability to achieve what they want - a difference of potency that makes an assymetry between wills and forms a hierarchy of wills according to the positive effectiveness of the choices the beings make in time to achieve what they want. God tunes all the efforts of the desires and choices in beings to seek what His ideal will seeks - as each find their own way to the greatness of God by first finding the lesser aspects of God.. And thus many come to find the greater aspects of God that allow them to achieve what they want, as they like to desire it and and share God's absolute freedom of desire and will by whatever amount of efforts. The greatest goal for any being is to grow to experience all of the experience of everything - clearly none but God experience it in exactly the same ordering as God or they would be that 'God' - and not all come to experience the totality they guess at, expect or believe for - perhaps even believing for a while that they experience all of God yet not having proof or knowledge and then maybe finding out what they were lacking...

Giving and receiving cannot always be simultaneous. Giving may sometimes be at the expense of receiving - selfish modes of receiving hinder some ways to give, however what is received allows more to be given eventually... It can be loving to allow a gift to pass you by in order to reach another than to grasp it as yours first - yet what if the giver's intention was for you to receive the gift first? Some gifts may multiply once received so that many may receive and so that one may give without losing - to be shared. Jesus' example of great love involved total self-denial - to deny yourself means letting people be free to experience your private experience in any way that God desires. It means making your self entirely loyal to try and/or do God's will to the extent that He fills you with His ability to give and love. As far as love's self-sacrifice for the good of others goes, God does not allow us to be tested by this to an extent that causes our hope in optimism to fully die...

Randomness is complexity of an operation still untraced. Chance indicates ignorance of prophetic knowledge. The contrasting of the words 'order' and 'chaos' as if they were mutually exclusive by general definitions is fallacy... Chaos has order to it like anything and often the words that would better convey the concepts experienced are the 'complexity' or the 'simplicity' of the rules known to be governing the situation.

Without expectations, and beliefs or will/desire to give or take concerning one's destiny - these things cannot be met by a destiny that meets these demands and thus makes God's will seem to be more than random chance. These parts of our mindfulness make patterns possible between our destiny and our present situation and likewise the possible existence of laws of change spanning across the change that stands between us and our destiny... So love, trust and hope enable order to be discerned in our lives.

Regrets are a curious basis for re-inventing ourselves... Regrets needn't be unhappy and needn't involve the destructive feeling of wishing a thing had never happened... Whatever happens has to happen - it is all necessary for some purpose - to help us all to develop. You can't change what happened but true regret reconsiders the past to learn from God a better way of acting in a similar future set of events. So one might say 'I regret not that I did it but I regret to do it again'.

An easy way to develop wisdom and a critical mind is to read through collections of quotations and learn to disregard the somewhat simplistic attempts to make generalisations - a step further is to learn to imagine how they could be better phrased as more specifically oriented quotes... Or even, perhaps, to apprehend that they can associate in the mind to a true generalisation concerning some related subject matter.

The majority of the so-called fictional stories record in detail the facts of what has already happened to real people, often ages ago and in previous incarnations... or - of course - what will happen in an apparently new way...


. . . 2  The Eternal Universe . . . .

Some people think God only creates others think God destroys too.. Now, God - as the creativity of all is greater than the all in that His eternally good attentions, decisions and behaviours prevail and eventually completely dominate everywhere. In doing justice God seeks to make people happy eventually and leaves the Enemy to make people unhappy. In being greater than all this 'Father' of Christ is not thwarted - except temporarily - in His desire, will and action to make all fully happy. The Enemy makes us all suffer the same amount of unhappiness and then His or Her will can never again cause us sadness whether by creativity or destructivity. The Destroyer whether God or the Enemy as regards happiness can destroy all in people's lives except our eventual permanence of full happiness...

To be a being or experiencer is the basis of reality. One's identity is a basis for deciding one's ownership within the experience overall of your being's existence. Ownership is defined simply as zones of one's elemental experiences where we experience things more than once by means of the ability to count and experience things to degrees of intensity beyond degree one. Usually our identity is defined by our conception of causality - the will or the force of other's will - what owns the will or what the will owns defines an identity within one's being. When ownership is associated with causality we call it will. When ownership is not associateed with causual elements we assign it the name force. Efforts may be deemed to will or cause or force actions through change yet in principle so equivalently a colour might be deemed to cause by will or force also. Our identity might be divorced from our efforts - depending if we think we own our efforts.

There may be beings who differ from you by only one infinitesimal element of experience in all of eternity - so that you may be considered collectively with those sharing big amounts of your exact experience as if you were like clones sharing large amounts of your substance like conjoined twins.

People - beings may find they divide into two or more beings and then multiplicities of beings may have their experiences merge together perhaps after some change and/or period of time in which for a while they were separate by lacking experience of each other. So being is one experience - 'you' and 'me' are for some incidental temporary terms for our being joined into the experience of being an 'us'.

Time is a transient experience of all the experiences of all change in eternity that merely experience all of time, unpopulated by the other experiences in time, going forwards or backwards infinitesimal step by infinitesimal step - so that nothing but mathematically related experiences of empty change are experienced. Yet the fully populated eternity is the collective experience of the all - They experience time, full of all experiences, in the maximum number of ways in the greatest collection of orderings. If a being is in time, time is in the being. God may experience all of time for a while with all of its senses of change - forwards and backwards - all this even within an infinitesimal instant of time and with total population of beings and ideal experience. History in time's change sequences allows us to have durations involved in the change scenario of time as well as other elements of function and quality.

Things go in and out of existence as sequenced by time - which is a dynamic filter of the greatest instantaneous experience, so that time creates the experience of all beings by multiple dynamic subtractions from it. Time may appear full of all the current events in the universe or time may for a long while sequence a series of lesser experiences - subsets of the universal experience.

A being may experience a lesser beings' ignorance as well as experiencing its other experiences.

The entire creation is the collection of all currently existing beings who are either firstly non-existent from infinite past history, receiving their created existence with a finite past history, or the remainder, whose existence has an infinite past history, both categories of which include creatures who are temporarily annihilated and re-created.

Mathematically speaking, God can be counted by the ever extending number sequence - the natural numbers. Also true is that many other infinite beings exist that can be counted by the natural numbers - for instance any one that, unlike God, doesn't exist with infinite past history, but when they first come to exist in time have a finite past history yet continue to exist for infinite time future...

Infinite ordering of all things - the oneness of infinity - infinity is one size:   The natural numbers 1,2,3,4,5.. extended infinitely contain an infinite number of infinite sequences and so are able to count or sequence the real numbers and infact all things by means of an infinite 'bootstrapped' correspondence... (For those unfamiliar with the evolution of biological life the development of embrios or computers, a bootstrapped process is where a set of very simple individual initial correspondences or commands are, once set up, followed by the next logical level of slightly more extended correspondences or commands and so forth until a potentially infinitely complex system can be developed from an originally minimal amount of program code.)
   An initial step of a simple method of making such a correpondence might be to initially touch, by correspondence to an infinite series of multiples of a prime number (- perhaps twos with the infinite series 2,4,6,8,...), the initial element only of some infinite thing - such as (using base 10) the number 0.1 in every possible dimension of space, then to proceed to another infinite thing and count next using another set of prime multiples - perhaps threes - but excuding all multiples of the base of the initial counting series (which I chose as 2). So that would go; 3,(exclude 6)9,(exclude 12)15,21,27,33,... .
   Also each list of prime number based multiples - with exclusion of all repeats from previous multiple lists - can be itself broken into an infinite number of separate infinite sequences according to the same original pattern of taking first the multiples of 2, then of 3, then of 5, and so on through the prime numbers and excluding repeats from earlier sequences in the later sequences. So for instance the sequence of multiples of 2 can be further broken into infinitely many sequences as follows; 4,8,12,16,20,... , 6,18,30,42,... and so on, and likewise for multiples of 3 and 5 and 7 and the other prime multiple sequences. So this second layer of complexity in the algorithm creates another degree of subdivision of the natural numbers into an infinite sequence of infinite sequences of infinite sequences. Now this adding of a layer of complexity by breaking up subsequences into further subsequences is a process that can be repeated infinitely so that the natural numbers can in principle never run out of infinite sequences with which to count infinite sets of things in the eternal universe, thus the natural numbers can in principle count, by one to one correspondence, everything in eternity including themselves. So every set or element of a set in eternity can be given a unique identifying natural number - and of course the whole one-to-one correspondence or matching can be re-ordered ad infinitum to assign everything an alternative or repeat-match natural number - and each matching can be assigned one of the natural numbers within each matching - so that the matchings are also self-referencing.
   So, as there are an infinite number of infinite subsequences in the natural number sequence one can proceed systematically through the infinite number of infinite things in the universe - by process of infinite layering of some systematic sequential process that 'bootstraps' every infinite list of things onto the initial numbers that spawn infinite sequences within the natural numbers.
   As follows I will count one dimension of the real numbers using the sequences that exist within the sequence 2,4,6,8,10,... which are as follows: 4,8,12,16,20,... , then 6,18,30,42,... , and then 10,50,70,110,... etc... where the sequences have all common numbers removed from the later sequences. So then, the first sequence can count through all the real numbers that exist between 0 and 1 inclusive by a process of halving and then halving the halves etc - in other words, first, listing all those rational numbers in base 2 between 0 and 1 inclusive and then simply defining all numbers between 0 and 1 by adding base 2 fractions to each other in a systematic infinite sequence - which defines real numbers by systematically finding all the infinitely many finite sums of base 2 fractions and the infinitely many infinite sums of base 2 fractions in one infinite sequence. So what results might be this systematic pattern: 0,   0.1,   0.01, 0.11,   0.001, 0.011, 0.101, 0.111,   0.0001, 0.0011, 0.0101, 0.0111, 0.1001, 0.1011, 0.1101, 0.1111, ...
   You can work systematically through all the numbers that have a particular number of places in base 2 and then go on to those numbers with one more total number of places in base 2 etc... So then, the first sequence can count through all the real numbers that exist between 1 and -1 inclusive by a similar process that process of halving and then halving the halves etc except for each number other than 0 a negative number of the same size can be counted in along with the positive number. And then by similar halving process, the second sequence in the multiples of 2 can count through the numbers between 2 and 1 inclusive of 2 but not 1, and between -2 and -1 inclusive of -2 but not -1, and so on for the third sequence and the rest of the sequences towards the infinite limit - taking in all the real numbers in one dimension.
   There are an infinite number of sequences in which to use these prime number based counting series and an infinite number of orders in which to sequence the various infinite things of the infinite creation... The infinite range of time, proceeding from a beginning of a creation at a (finite) point in history, affords scope for creatures bound into this limited experience with no infinite past, to discover, as time progresses for them into the infinite future, absolutely everything that can be discovered, including the past that they did not at first experience...

Difference and similarity measure quantity or richness of distinguishableness and sameness in any span of the mind. Order is an asymmetric consideration of separation - involving more difference than mere separation. Order specifies more difference than separation - there are always at least two orders for every separation - all the experiences of existence may be ordered... So beings-experiencers, through their experiences of order, they are distinguishable from each other by the orders of their experience.

Order is more general than time - time is defined by order - there are at least four sub-orders in eternity - time, preference, cause and spatial order. Order sequences everything in eternity: - the reverse ordering of time and the experiences of separation WITHOUT order; - cause as equivalent to effect - or time as mere directionless change - or time with a lack of perception of change - time as space. Time is the way in which the multiplicity of orders of experience within time are all ordered together. Eternity holds two time directions for this co-orderedness. Time is given orders of association in relation to change - for any change things may be ordered two ways - 'before' and 'after' the change.. Each time direction may be experienced separately or together - from eternal past to eternal future and simultaneously from eternal future to eternal past. Eternal time orders all things including the experience of itself - various passages through time in either direction either experienced simultaneously or separately... All imaginations of causual relationships are also ordered within time. Time orders the order in which beings take turns at existing so as to have experience.

Beings may for a time only experience time backwards... or while experiencing it forwards they can also experience it moving backwards to meet at some point in the 'middle'. This middle point may vary.

Desire is pleasure taken in the forcing of plans onto the next change - either force which takes effect or impotent force which doesn't. There are degrees of force with which choices may be implemented also. Beings may find themselves forcing things to come about with no sense of choice because they lack an owning identity for the force. Many times beings want to change and interact in chosen ways within their ranges of permissible activity whilst other times they may merely choose how to act without desiring what they choose. Sometimes desire or choice remains in the abstract planning stage and finds no greater or further form of actualisation. So we call the desires and choice impotent.

Beings with experience of causality can imagine causual influences - causual experience may be cause of existence or change or direction of change. The causual conception or force imagined to cause a change (perhaps in an identities 'will') may be imagined to cause some imagination to actualise or cause an imagination not to actualise.

Infinite variety: Why should an infinite length extending through eternal time not be fit into a finite length of eternal time as well... - The infinite line of the Real numbers maps onto any finite line within itself... So for many beings infinite lengths of their experience within eternity are contained within these finite life spans infinitely many times in infinitely varied ways - so that they repeat the whole at various intervals within the whole. Thus the whole of an eternity is may be defined by containing holes in which the rest of the eternity fits into in a repeating way so that the hole also contains another smaller hole into which again fits the eternity, so far defined, ad infinitum until all the infinitely many holes within the holes are filled with the outer definition repeated over and over towards the limit when the holes are infinitesimal.

Everything in eternity fits into an infinitely ordered Eternal-Whole which can be mapped onto the natural numbers to an infinite degree in an infinitely involved way... How? Any infinite ordering (possibly time line) can be re-ordered infinitely. All the orderings can then be assigned to any particular set of finite lines of the eternal time line which may lie within a particular span of eternity. The ordering of the orderings in the time line can then be re-ordered either for inclusion in another part of the same being's time line or for another being's time line... In this sort of way eternity or the eternal universe can get packed infinitely dense with experience.
    The collective all's ordering of experience is greater than others in that it can be perceived to have the most variety of relationships towards all beings' individual orderings of experience - in other words, the summation all can be interrelated to all beings' individual orders of experience (for instance according to causality or codification) in the the way that has the greatest variety...

Cause is a glue that orders mutuality in existence - an infinite collection of ways to connect things with an arbitary abstract order - anything can be supposed to cause anything else - in all there is one big cause network - the limit of re-ordering the re-orderings of orders of experiencing experiences of various numbers of beings' experience over various periods of their eternal life spans -- some beings can experience more abstracted causual concepts (imaginations of order relationships) than others yet all beings are equally causual - part of the causual network - some causes can be considered more causual than others - by associating the cause element more times with the events considered. Some beings can be imagined to cause things in a greater number of ways than others, whilst other beings are causing things with more intense causuality...

It is possible in a particular line segment of some beings' history to squeeze ever more infinite lines of history until an infinite density of experience of change of information is reached relative to other parallel lines of history of other beings less able to find that richness of experience in the same period of historical time (time by number of changes rather than as includes durations). Relative to some other being who experiences only two things for that stretch of historical time that happen to be in common with the experience of this first being - the first instant experience and the last instant experience - the first being can be said to change infinitely fast relative to it although the single change seems to take longer from the point of view of the being experiencing an infinite amount of change of experience information over the finite period. This being, without the gaps in the shared experience, has the most objective perception of length of historical time while the being that only experiences the first and last two events may have a subjectively limited perception of historical time. Thus the objective-duration (subjective is the feeling of duration whereas objective is based on the amount of events happening across the number of changes involved in a time interval) of historical time perception over a finite period is absolutely relative to the being that experiences the most instants of sequential events of history over the finite period of historical time. So historical time's essential clocks are infinitely information-dense alternators - ...This is why the greater you become in historical time the more 'inner' you are in historical time - experiencing more of the richness of objective historical time... The experience of subjective time between two contiguous instants of objective historical time can feel short or long - making the way we experience an objectively measured rate of change seem subjectively quick and/or slow.

Imaginations may be experienced in an instant or imagination may take time to operate and so allow people to imagine ordering or asymetric abstract ways of considering the instantaneous experience of a spatial dimension (such as causality) over a greater than instant period of time. Instantaneous imagination or experience is possible of if-then-scenarios ('if-then' is an ordering or collection of imaginations of present connecting to future forming a hypothetical (true for your present moment) plan of action or collective view of possibility), change (and so flux) and causality - and so strength (ability to stay the same), power (ability to become different), and might (abilities to become more than one outcome - possibly to remain the same and become different).

Imagination - the abstraction of experiences with ambiguous identities or hypothetical elements - exists in the present - before a change. Imagination of various pasts is possible without actually entering the past and adding anything to it yet fully enacted imaginations are indistinguishable from remaining imaginary except for the existence of the change elements used to bring the actualisation.

All but one of the hypothetical outcomes of a choice remain hypothetical. To believe in God as Truth means to decide what you desire to choose based on the assumption that your knowledge of Him is a reliable guide to outcomes of choice - that hypothetical outcomes of hypothetical choices are either to be desired to be chosen or not - regardless of what you infact choose. All choice is then an endless instant-by-instant test of God's truthfulness or your choice based on some other factor than faith in God's truthfulness. Faith chooses, so does doubt. Faith has eyes - doubt does not, - the question is - does using these eyes or refusing them get you the outcome you desire. Faith says I see how to get what I choose - doubt says I don't need to see what I choose and I have no plan of how to choose other than waiting to find out what I end up getting - personal caprice. Faith makes use of a conscience and perhaps also a god while doubt goes it alone. People decide to trust and stay trusting of eventual contented happiness since it is this quality that endues history with worth.

Rulership is attaining a greater influence from your attentions, decisions and efforts than another in such a way that your influence also limits the influences of others. The causality of rulership or potency expressed is called force - forces are qualities that have strength to initiate change, potency to maintain change against opposing forces, power to change quickly (with greater density of experience-change in any particular period of objective historical time) with might to have change and stasis as simultaneous outcome....

Many beings may spend time experiencing other's, while others cannot experience them... To participate willingly with the desire to change the experience of other beings, one needs to know (or trust) that choosing a particular personal experience will give another being a particular kind of experience that they want or do not. To know (or trust) whether they do or not one needs to come to experience something from the other being's set of desires. This means knowing (or trusting) that parts of our experience relate to the experience of other beings in particular ways (perhaps according to simple rules)...

An experience that you may give someone else may perhaps be a various experience or the same one that you willed towards them. So we have our subjective expectation, belief and trust to be tested by change and sequential outcome and the objective proof or knowledge of how we originally observed or imagined things for ourselves.



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